My Opponents Are Cowards - Vivek Ramaswamy

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Tom Klingenstein interview with Vivek Ramaswamy
Article date: 
1 November 2023
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Our American Future
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Recently I interviewed Vivek Ramaswamy by phone. I was eager to speak with him because of all the presidential candidates he seems to be the one most aware that we are in a war, call it a “cold civil war.” And as Ramaswamy is fond of saying “you can’t win a war if you don’t know you are in one.” He understands that wokeism, the revolutionary ideology of the woke regime, is out to kill our regime, the American regime...

Tom Klingenstein: Let’s get down to brass tacks. How do you pronounce your first name?

Vivek Ramaswamy: “Vivake” as in cake...

VR: We are absolutely in a war with the fate of the country at stake. And you had better know it. You know you are in a war when there is no middle ground, no room to compromise. Either you believe in free speech, or you believe in censorship. You can’t have both. Either you believe in a meritocracy, or you believe in group quotas. You can’t have both. Either you believe in the founding ideals of this country or you believe America is systemically racist. Either you think it’s an honor to fly the flag or you are embarrassed to fly it. You can’t have it both ways. If you think America is systemically racist, you hate America. If you think America’s founding principles are the world’s greatest remedy for racism, you love America. These differences are simply too large to bridge. This is what makes it a war. If you don’t recognize that you are in a war, then you will negotiate with the other side, but that will only lead ultimately to surrender.

And if we lose this war, we will have full-fledged tyranny...

TK: Does anyone else see that we are in a war?

VR: Trump. He knows we are up against an enemy that doesn’t want to improve America but destroy it. I give Trump a lot of credit for this. In a war you must have clarity, you can’t be beating around the bush.

TK: Why don’t your other competitors for the nomination see what you and Trump see, that we are in a war? The same question could be asked about Republican leadership generally. 

VR: Because they are stuck in the past, stuck in old ways of thinking. What they think they see is that we’re going through one of the ups and downs that America has gone through time and again but has always found its way through. They can’t imagine that this time she may well not...

VR: The educational system imposes woke ideology by coercion or bribery. It says to local schools, you do not get federal funding unless you teach that: America was born in sin; your identity is based on your skin color; if you’re black or a woman, you’re oppressed. That if you’re white, you’re privileged. This is why I plan to get rid of the Department of Education...

TK: Let’s get back to the financial system which you say has also been weaponized.

VR: Right. Most Americans do not realize people who are deemed enemies of the state cannot get banking services like checking accounts. This is the case if you have the wrong view on say, vaccine mandates, climate change, ESG, or are a gun manufacturer. These are the people that are also getting censored by the large Tech platforms in cahoots with the government.

In Britain, those who dissent are deprived of health care services. Don’t think this can’t happen here. You saw where our government prioritized agricultural subsidies based on race.   

TK: You mentioned the climate change agenda.

VR: It’s a hoax. It’s an excuse to destroy the nation state. And it helps China. But we do not seem to care. Our elite have a death wish. The same with energy dependence that Biden manufactured...

VR: Woke America hasn’t yet achieved full Stalinist status. But if you want to see gulags being built, you don’t have to look any further than the treatment being given by the Biden justice system to the so-called "insurrectionists" of January 6...

VR: I don’t want my two sons to grow up in country where censorship, brain washing, and self-loathing are the norm. Where religion is practiced only by the so-called "deplorables." Where a boy can use a girl’s bathroom...