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The now-former professor at Hamline University, Erika López Prater, warned students in the syllabus that images of holy figures, including the Prophet Muhammad and the Buddha, would be shown during the course. She asked students to contact her with any concerns, and said nobody did.
In class, she told students right...
The mother of Ashli Babbitt, Micki Witthoeft, was arrested by U.S. Capitol Police at a protest Friday afternoon in Washington, D.C. marking the second anniversary of her daughter’s killing by Capitol Police officer Michael Byrd during the January 6th riot.
Micki was on her way to lay a rose on the steps of the US...
A question that is absurd on its face: Can you, a white or black man, an American or an African, “become Japanese?” Answer: Of course not. To be Japanese is to be of Japanese blood and raised in Japan, with its language, cuisine and other markers of Japanese culture. Why? Because the Japanese say so. So why can’t Americans...
Tucker Carlson’s monologue on Friday night, the second anniversary of January 6, was outstanding. He stands athwart the Democrats’ perverted narrative and hollers, “Stop.” And if you need more evidence about how the narrative is being perverted, a new media reporter named Tayler Hansen tells about what really happened on...
Less than a month before the November election, the office of Colorado’s secretary of state declined to provide the names of noncitizens who received voter registration notifications by mail, according to records obtained by a watchdog group.
The Public Interest Legal Foundation released a report Thursday about how...
Recent court filings reveal that Google, by means of its Location History function that many Google users (often unknowingly) opt into, has tracked and recorded extensive location data for over 500 million people. Few of us are aware our location histories are being tracked and recorded in this way. Law enforcement agencies...
Officials in the sanctuary state of Colorado, with an influx of border crossers and illegal aliens arriving, are sending migrant buses to New York City, also a sanctuary jurisdiction.
For nearly a year, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has sent busloads of border crossers and illegal aliens to sanctuary cities like New York...
Arizona has started to dismantle its makeshift border wall made of shipping containers that was championed by former Gov. Doug Ducey but faced opposition from newly minted Gov. Katie Hobbs and was the target of a Biden administration lawsuit....
Illegal immigration has soared under President Joe Biden’s watch, with...
Ask yourself why they would seal the evidence for 50 years?
The committee, which was entirely one-sided against former President Donald Trump after Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi took the unprecedented step of blocking minority party nominees, followed the equally problematic practice of Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) in...
As Olivier Bault reports at Remix News, the threshold of 100,000 illegal migrants who arrived by sea in Italy this year was crossed on Dec. 21, and the number is not only a symbolic milestone but also serving as a call to action for Italy’s conservative government.
The figure of 100,000 can be compared with the 64,055...
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The left-wing controlled Oxfordshire County Council’s new plans to divide the British city of Oxford into six “15-minute cities”. In these new “smart” districts, it is said, most household essentials will be accessible by a quarter-of-an-hour walk or bike ride, so residents will...
... So, what has changed between the early 1980s and today?
The conquest of every mainstream institution by an idea that Ambassador Kirkpatrick memorably identified in 1984. “The progressive left always blames America first,” she said in a GOP convention speech. Kirkpatrick was referring to foreign affairs, but she...
Many people view cruising alone down the open road as the ultimate form of freedom. We regret to inform you that liberty will completely evaporate soon unless Congress acts.
The website Motorious reported on Friday that former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr has been sounding the alarm on a terrifying item buried within...
Tom Homan, former acting director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), has criticized what he described as lax border security policies under the Biden administration, arguing that the surge in illegal immigration “is on purpose.”
Homan, who served as head of ICE from 2017 to 2018, described the border...
Repeal the 1965 Immigration Act!
Repeal the 1965 Immigration Act
Here's an interesting and sobering read. Kunstler covers the economy, the deep state, Ukraine (particularly interesting), Asia, and diminishing energy. His prognosis is grim, consistent with his books The Long Emergency.and Living in the Long Emergency. The article is sobering yet worth reading. Here are a few excerpts:...
This was not just election fraud, it was a coup.
The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything - Joseph Stalin The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night. pic.twitter.com/lOG2iV4l2e - Andy Swan (@AndySwan) November 4,...Last week I wrote about Teddy Roosevelt and Donald Trump. My comparison wasn’t between the two men as presidents—though they had some similar personality traits—but between how the two men were treated by the Republican Party. The Republican Party of 1912 decided it would be better off renominating William Howard Taft, even...
If chattel slavery hadn't existed in the United States, the Left would have had to invent it. What we mean is that the idea of slavery has become so dear to the disciples of identity politics that without its moral sanction they would be lost. Absent the original sin of slavery, the entire racialist racket that holds our...
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This week, the U.S. Census Bureau revealed that in 2022, the U.S. population hit about 333.3 million residents — a 0.4 percent increase compared to 2021 — with growth in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
Most of the population growth in 2022, more than 80 percent, is directly from the nation’s...
Here’s another recommended article by VDH. There’s so much in it that it’s hard to select just a few quotes, but here are some of special interest to me:
The FBI is now, tragically, in freefall. The public is at the point, first, of asking what improper or illegal behavior will the bureau not pursue, and what, if...
... Over the past half-century, my abhorrence of poverty hasn’t waned. However, I quit being a socialist long ago. It wasn’t because my values and goals changed, but because my understanding of how best to achieve the worthy goal of defeating poverty has evolved. Caring about a problem is the easy part. The harder part is to...
A new investigation from the Heritage Foundation exposes how Non-Governmental Organizations, known as NGOs, work with the federal government to relocated illegal immigrants from border towns to destinations across the country under the guise of "charity."
"The Biden border crisis was sparked by the deliberate...
People are starting to realize that the collapse of the American border is not an accident. It can’t be. When the vice president of the United States says the border is “secure” at the same time that illegal border crossings have surged to more than a million a year, then one of two things must be true.
Either the...
... Unfortunately, America may be slowly inching to this point where government incompetence undermines its legitimacy. Why support a country run by bumbling fools? This is not just the usual cynicism encapsulated by the comic phrase, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.” This is the level of ineffectiveness...
The USA stands as the world’s most powerful and prosperous democracy, but despite many smaller and quite functional democracies, the anti-freedom, dictatorships of China, Russia, Iran and the many lesser dictatorships are not likely to be supplanted by citizen uprisings or any changes from the Xi and Putin types which...
... [in 2016] back when most Republicans (myself included) didn’t consider Trump a serious candidate. The media decided he would be a wonderful candidate from the Democrats’ perspective and selected him as most likely to lose to Hillary Clinton. So they gave him all the free coverage he could handle....
Prepare...
In the year 2022, the population of the United States of America was artificially boosted by the surge of mass migration across the southern border, with over 1 million people being added to the overall population total.
According to the Associated Press, the American population increased by 1.2 million due to the...
“Give me money so I can demand more money!” Our seriously-broke country has no business giving away anything for free, let alone this kind of coin to a lawless authoritarian state halfway around the globe.
Partial transcript:
... What exactly are the terms of this? Now that we're talking...
Now white people can’t even be friendly to minorities without accusations of racism.
The woke Left has been trying to exert political control and further cement its victimhood narrative through restrictive language changes. Racist common language glossaries have been popping up all over college campuses, including...
This updates Yes, Virginia (Dare), There Is A War On Christmas—Here’s Twenty Years Of Proof! which had 356 items in 2019. Since then we’ve added an additional 59 items, making at total of 415.
See the original article for a compilation of articles covering the War on Christmas.
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Cancelling...
Oberlin College has forked over the $36 million owed to a local bakery after the progressive Ohio school falsely accused the family-operated business of being racist.
The substantial payout was awarded earlier this year after Gibson’s Bakery won a defamation lawsuit against the school that sided with three black...
In response to the influx of migrants from Belarus, Lithuania, like Poland, has started building a wall along its border. It is now complete, but major video surveillance systems have been implemented to combat damage attributed partly to the Belarusian border guards.
Meanwhile, in the United States, thousands of...
As reported in the article, here is a summary of audacious items in the $1.7 spending bill:
"The Omnibus bill is over 4,000 pages long with $1.7 trillion in spending. It prohibits the government from spending any money to be used to improve US border security. WHO WROTE THIS? CHINA?"
It expressly prohibits CBP...... In Orwell’s 1984 there was a constant state of war between three global powers and this helped facilitate control over the population. Rule by fear and hate were so prevalent in Orwell’s 1984 that there was an official hate week. In the name of security people were encouraged to report on each other and video...
Anthropocentrism is preventing humanity from dealing with the world’s cascading environmental crises. Stephen Williams reviews the work of Catholic historian Paul Collins who argues depopulation is an urgent moral imperative.
A new discussion paper on population ethics written by Catholic historian Paul Collins is as...
One of the benefits of Elon Musk’s mass firings at Twitter and the general downsizing in social media companies, that Facebook is firing more than Twitter with none of the publicity. The good news was that lots of H-1Bs were going to go home. Even experts at VDare were fooled: Bonus to Musk’s Buying Twitter: Fired H-1B...
Most Americans know something has gone terribly wrong—and very abruptly—with the United States. They are certain that our wounds are almost all self-inflicted. The current pathologies are not a result of a natural disaster, an exhaustion of natural resources, plagues, or an existential war....
In the spirit of...
... Prices are up, and Joe Biden caused the problem by spending and printing money for government boondoggles, like a proverbial drunken sailor.
The figure cited is year-on-year, which doesn't really convey the extent of the problem. The real measure of inflation is the one that begins with Joe Biden's...
The city of Denver declared a state of emergency on Thursday in order to stave off a local humanitarian crisis amid an influx of illegal aliens from the southern border, mainly from El Paso, Texas.
Mayor Michael Hancock, a Democrat, issued the declaration as several hundred illegal aliens, mostly from Central and...
Independent journalist Matt Taibbi has released the sixth installment after review of more Twitter File data [SEE HERE]. Keep in mind, the research group containing Mr. Taibbi are only seeing the consequences side of the content removal process. What specifically happened in/around the portal of information flowing into...
PLEASE NOTE: This is the 1st part of a 3-part series. Here we lay a foundation describing how the “alphabet agencies” have infiltrated social media to use it as a chokepoint for the control of information and dissemination of propaganda. Parts 2 & 3 will explain the need for the release of more “Twitter Files” on Antifa...
ideo and other reports from the border are clear. Anarchy reigns; no sane person can dispute that penniless illegal aliens this nation will never deport—something they know very well—have mounted a full-scale invasion that is worsening as the end of Title 42 public-health expulsions approaches.
Border agents are...
One by one, they go to start their business day only to find a baffling message from their payments app informing them: “You can no longer do business with PayPal.”
There is little or no explanation. They have somehow offended the sensibilities of someone somewhere deep inside the bureaucracy.
They are simply...
... Biden’s border agency expects 9,000 to 14,000 economic migrants per day after officials remove the Title 42 legal barrier in late December, says CNN.
The predicted inflow adds up to roughly 4.5 million migrants per year or more than one extra southern migrant for every American birth in the United States.
...
[originally published 25 December 2017]
“Christmas is essential to our understanding of Western Civilization and our values,” said Breitbart News’s Senior Editor-at-Large Rebecca Mansour on Sunday.
Mansour made her comments while co-hosting Breitbart News Sunday alongside Breitbart Executive Chairman Stephen K...
A rrecount in Colorado’s 3rd Congressional district confirmed GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert won her race against Democrat Adam Frisch.
Democrat Adam Frisch conceded to Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert last month....
While Traitor Thom Tillis seeks to trade an ineffectual continuance of Title 42 authority in exchange for amnesty for 2 million illegal aliens and millions more green cards for tech indentured servants, the Biden Regime’s response to the now confirmed renewed zerg rush of illegal aliens at the border with Mexico is...
Review of ‘The Culture Transplant’ by Garett Jones.
... Jones shows, through an engaging and digestible tour of the academic literature, that people bring their national character with them when they migrate; that those values persist for up to several generations; and that some values really are better for societal...
A lot of people think that the Democrat Biden regime is taking America by leaps and bounds towards socialism. Yet it seems they are skipping over socialism and embracing full Communism.
President Trump made that very point, as was discussed in the 9 December 2022 VDare article, Trump On J6 Gulag: "Our Country Is Going...
On Nov. 15, the world’s population is expected to pass 8 billion. Global population is growing by over 70 million per year, with 80 percent of that growth concentrated in the poorest countries least equipped to feed, educate or employ these additional people. This growth contributes to widespread poverty and environmental...
A genuinely open Twitter would be deadly for our decadent liberal regime.
The American regime’s crusade against social media free speech revealed the radical character of our liberal ruling class. From 2016 onward, the elites and their social media mercenaries waged an unrelenting propaganda war against ordinary...
... County election managers change the zip code of 31,000 voters on September 3. Ballots go out that week. Those 31,000 are undeliverable. Someone collects those valid ballots. On September 15th, those addresses are quietly changed back.
National Change of Address Database (NCOA) will not pick up those address...
There are no easy solutions to the problem of our republican decline. Some have proposed a “fortify or die” approach just to guarantee Republicans the ability to compete in elections with the increasingly despotic Democrat Party. Others argue that to participate in the same electioneering tactics as the Democrats—even if...
The third installment of Elon Musk's release of internal Twitter communications has been released, once again via veteran journalist Matt Taibbi.
In this episode, which is a 3-parter, we learn what happened behind the scenes which led to the banishment of former President Donald Trump from the platform.
1....
Jake Lang and J6Legal.org released a powerful video this week on the January 6, 2021, protests in Washington DC....
Here is the transcript from this very powerful ad by Jake Lang and J6Legal.org.
As you all well know, patriots assembled on January 6 at the United States Capitol to peacefully protest a stolen...
The Journalism Competition and Preservation Act (JCPA) contains a loophole that would allow foreign news organizations, including Chinese organizations, to influence the flow of information in the United States — even as lawmakers prepare to attach the derided media bailout bill to the National Defense Authorization Act (...
A bipartisan duo of senators are reviving negotiations for a potential deal on immigration reform [amnesty for illegal aliens] - including providing legal status for 2 million Dreamers and billions of dollars for border security - with the hope they can tackle the issue before the new Congress takes effect next year.
...Sweden: Those who buy into the popular leftist myth that “diversity is our strength” have lived to regret it
THAT WAS THEN: “There’s no turning back!” Swedish TV ad says Swedes must accept (Muslim) multiculturalism.
Swedes are told they need to give up their identity, their country, their culture, and their...
"Cardiovascular manifestations were found in 29.24% of patients."...
"If you take that vaccine, you’re [400%] likely to die from a fatal cardiac arrest over the next six months than if you don’t."
Over 2400 Excess Deaths Each Day – Europe: 300k Excess Deaths in 2022 – The New American
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Covid...This is what a slow-motion coup looks like.
The solution to patronage isn't professionalism, it's smaller government. Government is not a meritocracy and there's no point in keeping up the pretense that any part of it is merit-based. The most fundamental virtue of our constitutional government is that the public...
n a rather alarming development, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has handed a major victory to a liberal group trying to buy out a conservative radio station.
On November 22, Fox News reported that the FCC cleared the Latino Media Network to purchase Miami’s Spanish-language conservative radio station,...
Colorado election officials announced that a recount would be held in Colorado's 3rd Congressional District in the race between Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert and Democrat Adam Frisch.
Boebert is currently ahead by 550 votes, a close enough margin that Colorado law mandates a recount, according to the Colorado Sun,...
The monitoring of personal behavior by banks will take another step forward as Canadian credit union Vancity launches a new credit card technology to report users’ carbon emissions....
This will be the first carbon counter program for Visa holders. Mastercard already provides a CO2 emissions-tracking card, developed...
It remains an observable fact that the average American voter—the MAGA voter—is not going to abandon Trump, not even for another attractive candidate.
In August, Carl Benjamin, also known as Sargon of Akkad, posted a persuasive intellectual case for Donald Trump’s candidacy in which he said that “Trump is the...
When most people think of the National Science Foundation (NSF), they think about the US government investing tax dollars in grand advancements in mathematics, aerospace and engineering.
But under the Biden administration, the fastest-growing field of NSF grant funding appears to be the science of censorship.
...
Biden’s handlers are bent on delivering the United States into the global Technocracy being formed by the United Nations, China, the World Economic Forum and events like the G20 meeting just held. The world is clamoring to implement digital health passports in conjunction with digital IDs, and Biden has completely caved in...
It's always fun to ask those with little life experience and common sense who know it all a few questions on the history of modern-day slavery, better known as socialism.
For the appetizer, ask them when the concepts of an ideal state and collectivism were first "discussed." The odds are that they will be off by a...
The lords of lockdown barely escaped their worst possible fate, namely that the topic would become the national and international source of scandal that it should be. And let’s add the vaccine mandates here too: even if such had been morally justified, which they were not, there is absolutely no practical reason for them at...
From the Vlad Tepes blog:
This is particularly good. Especially the opening monologue on the state of Freedom of Speech in the US. It is difficult to deny that the US is rapidly becoming a fascist entity where government and bolshevik thugs like ANTIFA act like enforcers when police and politicians don’t do it for...
... Democrats in Michigan and their funders nationwide had their eyes on the real prize: the rules by which votes are cast and counted.
There is an international consensus that secure, trustworthy elections means strict voter ID requirements and in-person voting rather than drop boxes or vote-by-mail. In response to...
Despite the Elites’ attempts to smear the Great Replacement as a conspiracy theory, they can not deny the massive demographic changes in Europe and the United States.
... Democrat Chuck Schumer is taking a page from European Union’s great replacement scheme and suggesting that America is no longer “reproducing on its...
... Let’s take a look at what those Democrats voted for, what they supported this past Tuesday.
1. In New York, Michigan, Illinois and Pennsylvania they voted to release violent criminal without bail, to allow them to continue to commit violent crimes against innocent people...
2. They...
According to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, for the 2022 calendar year, agents have had nearly 2.1 million encounters at the U.S. - Mexico border.
Gov. Greg Abbott says he has invoked the Invasion Clauses of the U.S. and Texas Constitutions to declare immigration from Mexico as an invasion.
Gov. Abbott...
Health minister tells G20 nations they must implement WHO-approved ‘digital health certificates’ tracking all human movement for ‘next pandemic’.
Despite reams of evidence showing that the experimental mRNA Covid vaccines are unsafe and ineffective, the Indonesian minister of health called Tuesday for a global “...
The Left dominates the institutions. It is not possible right now to take back those sources of power. The Right must attack them instead...
Apologies to my fellow commentators, but Ron DeSantis should not run for president in 2024. Donald Trump’s “divisiveness” is not the problem....
Donald Trump is the...
We are living in the era of the collapse of Western civilization. In a few years there will be nothing left of Western civilization in England and Europe. The English already have a Hindu Indian as prime minister and a Pakistani as mayor of their capital city, London. Only mosque, not Christian churches, are being built in...
... Two days before the 2022 midterm elections, I published an article explaining how Google and other tech companies were shifting millions of votes without people knowing, and I also explained how I knew, without doubt, that this was occurring....
Over a period of months, Google potentially nudged undecided voters...
As the political discussion centers on the 2022 wins and losses from the midterm election, one thing that stands out in similarity to the 2020 general election is the difference between ballots and votes. It appears in some states this is the 'new normal.'
Where votes were the focus, the Biden administration suffered...
... we don’t really have an American republic anymore and why we won’t be getting one back anytime soon. To do this, however, we’ll need to address the question of democracy, which as Hans-Hermann Hoppe noted is the god that failed. He calls it this because many in our modern world treat “democracy” as an idol which cannot...
While the Red Wave of America First elections was eagerly anticipated in many parts of the country, there was little to no such anticipation in much of Colorado. Thanks, to some extent, to the recreational marijuana ballot initiative that was approved by Colorado voters a decade ago.
The aftermath of the initiative...
The same swing states where the last presidential election was stolen are again showing the mysterious sharp upward readjustment of the vote count for Democrat candidates. In Arizona where election day vote counting is on hold, mysterious tranches of votes keep arriving days after the election for the Democrat candidate for...
Mike Lindell and his group of researchers show massive spikes up and down in vote counts coming from many different races in the 2022 midterm elections. The spikes always favor the Democrat candidate. This evidence cannot be ignored.
Reporting live, using data from the Edison Report, the first spike...
... In Arizona there seems to be an effort to disappear the votes for Republican Kari Lake. Vote counting has been stopped when 600,000 votes remain to be counted. The uncounted votes are “day of election” votes cast in person mainly by Republicans who vote in person as they have learned not to trust alternative voting...
Traitor Joe and his Homeland Security Secretary, unindicted Cuban-Jewish visa fraudster Alejandro Mayorkas, have done it again. In a never-ending cycle meant to make deporting them impossible, they’ve extended Temporary Protected Status to more than 300,000 illegal aliens from Haiti, Nepal, Sudan, Honduras, Nicaragua, and El...
By every account, this was a strange election. Having had some time to think about it, I have determined the best explanation for November 8 is that this midterm election was intended to turn out pretty much the way it did.
Who intended it? The Republican establishment. Why? To get rid of Trump...
This was a...
Canada’s Immigration Minister Sean Fraser recently announced a bold immigration plan that has serious long-term deleterious consequences for the nation’s population growth and environmental degradation.
Fraser’s goal is, by 2025, to add 1.45 million permanent resident immigrants to address what he and other government...
This is an outrage. First they said we’d have the majority counted today. Then they said we’ve have the final result tomorrow. Now it’s ‘sometime next week.’ We would mock any other country for such wholesale corruption. And yet Americans just sit by and tolerate this grotesque criminality utterly destroying our most sacred...
It hardly matters now. The Biden regime got what it wanted — the imbecilic, privileged Gez Z voter, rendered incapable of critical thought by the very college education they expected the working class to pay for.
One thing I know already.
If not for voters under 30 … tonight WOULD have been a Red Wave.
...
In less than a week, there will be eight billion people on Earth. United Nations Population Fund chief Natalie Kanem is cheerful about it...
On November 15, the United Nations will mark the “Day of Eight Billion,” which it says “is both a cause for celebration and a clarion call for humanity to find solutions to the...
Despite the annual inflation rate easing to below 8 percent in October, working families have still lost thousands of dollars in income under the current administration, says The Heritage Foundation in a new report....
In total, the average family has lost $6,100 in real annual income, says EJ Antoni, a research...
The World Economic Forum’s climate change agenda was “modeled” off the effort to roll out vaccines during the Covid pandemic, John Kerry said during a COP27 panel discussion in Egypt on Tuesday....
... U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry said that it is urgent for the private sector to pair with...
It's one of the strangest elections on the books, as witness the shock among so many on the Democrat side that they did so well. They somehow managed to defy political gravity...
To get the most obvious out of the way, a lot of people are yelling "fraud." Some hinky stuff happened, and apparently we'll have to put up...
... We all remember — how could we forget? — the hysteria around Sweden in 2020. Why, if they didn’t have a proper lockdown, Neil Ferguson and his Imperial College model said, they’d have 96,000 deaths by June!
The actual number turned out to be 4000.
So then the crazies fell back on: it did worse than the...
... During the COVID-19 lockdowns, American elections radically changed to mail-in and early voting. They did so in a wild variety of state-by-state ways. Add ranked voting and a required majority margin to the mess and the result is that once cherished Election Day balloting becomes increasingly irrelevant....
It is...
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said that Democrats have conditioned Americans to “passively accept” election theft under the threat of a civil war, using their media apparatus to help drive fear into voters who think about asking too many questions.
Tucker Carlson predicted on the eve of the midterms that the Democrats...
... The American media, by and large, along with Silicon Valley’s social media communications oligopolies, are doing everything they can to deny American voters the opportunity to politically realign their nation....
These days, and for at least the past year, PBS anchor Judy Woodruff, along with every PBS reporter,...
There are videos making the rounds showing President Trump standing on stage in Miami's pouring rain while imploring Americans to get out and vote.... I encourage you to cement in your minds this quintessential image of Trump unbroken and unbowed. Whatever else can be said about the man (and there is plenty), he remains the...
Upwards of 70,000 illegal aliens and perhaps more slipped past border agents in October, the first month of fiscal 2022. The exact figure is unclear, with reports ranging from 64,000 to 86,000. Whatever that number, the minimum is at least 2,000 illegals per day, few if any of whom will be deported if they are caught, even...
